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Hi,

I am a sculpture and I have been commissioned by Chinnor Parish Council to make a sculpture that celebrates Chinnor Quarry (South Oxfordshire, UK) which, as I am sure you know, is a large chalk and marl quarry. I have been researching the geology of the site and I am amazed at what I have learned regarding coccoliths and the nature of chalk formation. I am writing to ask if anyone can help with advising on 3D computer models of coccoliths and also further information on how they from the plates and why they are the shape and size they are. I am considering making a number of large coccoliths and any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Matt.

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Hi Matt

That is a fascinating sounding project and I will be glad to help. It is probably easiest if you email me directly - jeremy.young@ucl.ac.uk

Jeremy

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Hello Jeremy,

You are exactly right. The issue is related to the browser used on my Windows-based laptop. The machine uses Microsoft Edge. It has handled Nannotax fine until very recently, so there must have been an update. My Mac laptop (using a different browser) continues to handle Nannotax perfectly well. Anyway, the issue is definitely browser-related.

Thanks again for your help.

-Andy

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Hi Andy

I have just tried the site on a windows computer with Microsoft Edge and it still works ok. I suspect the problem may be something to do with caching - I have recently changed the way some addresses are handled. So, you could try emptying caches/ deleting browsing history.

Jeremy

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Hello,

FYI - The links to the detailed species information (e.g. individual species pages) appears to be broken, as of Dec. 30, 2022.

Happy New Year.

Regards,

Andy

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Hi Andy

Thanks for reporting that. I think what you encountered was a temporary problem while I was doing some work on the system, and it should be Ok now.

Jeremy

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Hi Jeremy,

Thank you for the information. I'm still having issues with accessing the pages for individual species. If it's working on your end, then the issue is likely on my end.

Thanks again.

Andy

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Hi Andy

I cant't see any problem from my end but it may be an incompatiblity related to your set-up. Have you tested with a different browser or on another computer? If you do find there is a persisitent problem with a specific set-up do let me know as usually there are solutions possible from the developer end. Alterntively if it is being consistently slow in your location then it would be useful to know that as well

Jeremy

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Bonjour ;)

I found your site is GREAT! Very well organized and therefore very useful, especially because I was very recently editing a manuscript on nannofossils for Carnets Geol. https://doi.org/10.2110/carnets.2022.2217

I have few suggestions/comments.

1) For instance, in your reference list, it happens that papers by a single author follow multiauthored papers by the same first author (they should precede them)

2) You consider that nobiliary particles are part of the author's family name. There should not: van Hinte should be cited as Hinte and listed in the reference under the letter H

(but another Van Hinte with a first capital letter should be listed under the letter V; de Jong as Jong, under J, not under D; ... d'Orbigny as Orbigny, under O, not under D.

All best wishes,

Brnuo Granier

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Bonjour Bruno

Thank you for the appreciation and for the link to the paper - Bernard Lambert's work is always interesting to see and I will certainly add that to the bibliography. I had not really noticed the reference sorting problem but it was easy to fix, thank you for pointing it out. Honorific prefixies are more problematic since opinions vary on how to handle them, but maybe it is time to go back and tidy them up.

cheers

Jeremy

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The Farinacci catalogue lists 3 species under the genus Pharus Wind & Wise. As I understand it, this genus falls within the informal concept of "algae", and its nomenclature is therefore covered by the International Code of Nomenclature for algae, fungi, and plants, current edition 2018. This means that the genus name Pharus Wind & Wise is illegitimate, as it is a later homonym of Pharus P.Browne, a genus of neotropical grasses, name published in 1756. I am trying to get this message to somebody active in nannofossil research so that a valid replacement name can be published.

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Dear Keith Edkins

Thank you for your comment. Pharus Wind & Wise 1977 is indeed an alga and so a junior homonym of Pharus Browne 1756. The taxonomy of this group of Late Cretaceous holococcoliths is problematic but there is no other obvious genus for the species so a new name shoudl be propesed. I believe you have been in touch with Dr Jackie Lees and she would be an ideal person to collaborate on this.

thank you

Jeremy

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Hi,

I am a sculpture and I have been commissioned by Chinnor Parish Council to make a sculpture that celebrates Chinnor Quarry (South Oxfordshire, UK) which, as I am sure you know, is a large chalk and marl quarry. I have been researching the geology of the site and I am amazed at what I have learned regarding coccoliths and the nature of chalk formation. I am writing to ask if anyone can help with advising on 3D computer models of coccoliths and also further information on how they from the plates and why they are the shape and size they are. I am considering making a number of large coccoliths and any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Matt.

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Hi Matt

That is a fascinating sounding project and I will be glad to help. It is probably easiest if you email me directly - jeremy.young@ucl.ac.uk

Jeremy

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Hello Jeremy,

You are exactly right. The issue is related to the browser used on my Windows-based laptop. The machine uses Microsoft Edge. It has handled Nannotax fine until very recently, so there must have been an update. My Mac laptop (using a different browser) continues to handle Nannotax perfectly well. Anyway, the issue is definitely browser-related.

Thanks again for your help.

-Andy

Avatar

Hi Andy

I have just tried the site on a windows computer with Microsoft Edge and it still works ok. I suspect the problem may be something to do with caching - I have recently changed the way some addresses are handled. So, you could try emptying caches/ deleting browsing history.

Jeremy

Avatar

Hello,

FYI - The links to the detailed species information (e.g. individual species pages) appears to be broken, as of Dec. 30, 2022.

Happy New Year.

Regards,

Andy

Avatar

Hi Andy

Thanks for reporting that. I think what you encountered was a temporary problem while I was doing some work on the system, and it should be Ok now.

Jeremy

Avatar

Hi Jeremy,

Thank you for the information. I'm still having issues with accessing the pages for individual species. If it's working on your end, then the issue is likely on my end.

Thanks again.

Andy

Avatar

Hi Andy

I cant't see any problem from my end but it may be an incompatiblity related to your set-up. Have you tested with a different browser or on another computer? If you do find there is a persisitent problem with a specific set-up do let me know as usually there are solutions possible from the developer end. Alterntively if it is being consistently slow in your location then it would be useful to know that as well

Jeremy

Avatar

Bonjour ;)

I found your site is GREAT! Very well organized and therefore very useful, especially because I was very recently editing a manuscript on nannofossils for Carnets Geol. https://doi.org/10.2110/carnets.2022.2217

I have few suggestions/comments.

1) For instance, in your reference list, it happens that papers by a single author follow multiauthored papers by the same first author (they should precede them)

2) You consider that nobiliary particles are part of the author's family name. There should not: van Hinte should be cited as Hinte and listed in the reference under the letter H

(but another Van Hinte with a first capital letter should be listed under the letter V; de Jong as Jong, under J, not under D; ... d'Orbigny as Orbigny, under O, not under D.

All best wishes,

Brnuo Granier

Avatar

Bonjour Bruno

Thank you for the appreciation and for the link to the paper - Bernard Lambert's work is always interesting to see and I will certainly add that to the bibliography. I had not really noticed the reference sorting problem but it was easy to fix, thank you for pointing it out. Honorific prefixies are more problematic since opinions vary on how to handle them, but maybe it is time to go back and tidy them up.

cheers

Jeremy

Avatar

The Farinacci catalogue lists 3 species under the genus Pharus Wind & Wise. As I understand it, this genus falls within the informal concept of "algae", and its nomenclature is therefore covered by the International Code of Nomenclature for algae, fungi, and plants, current edition 2018. This means that the genus name Pharus Wind & Wise is illegitimate, as it is a later homonym of Pharus P.Browne, a genus of neotropical grasses, name published in 1756. I am trying to get this message to somebody active in nannofossil research so that a valid replacement name can be published.

Avatar

Dear Keith Edkins

Thank you for your comment. Pharus Wind & Wise 1977 is indeed an alga and so a junior homonym of Pharus Browne 1756. The taxonomy of this group of Late Cretaceous holococcoliths is problematic but there is no other obvious genus for the species so a new name shoudl be propesed. I believe you have been in touch with Dr Jackie Lees and she would be an ideal person to collaborate on this.

thank you

Jeremy